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Ever wonder what it’s like to run a business with your spouse? Empower BodyCare’s CEO Trista Okel and COO Michele White, who married in November 2016, recently shared their experience with Portland-based podcast Managing Partners.

The conversation covers everything from supporting each other through growing a nationwide CBD topicals company and navigating the COVID-19 economic downturn to dealing with a creepy potential investor and their story about how they met. Trista founded Empower BodyCare in 2013, and Michele came on board in 2016.

Find the full recording here.